When will Android 12 be out for Galaxy Note20 Ultra?

cmg0 wrote:

Gr1m5 wrote:

I could flash the Google fi build and it would be identical to the one I will get OTA when T-Mobile decides to give a damn.

I agree with everything @Gr1m5 wrote here except my understanding is that a future T-Mobile OTA would not install over a build that was sourced elsewhere. I am happy to be corrected if I’m wrong.

From the device support web page:

“Your device has non-T-Mobile software, and it is unsupported. The manufacturer and T-Mobile cannot update your software.”

 

I am confused though since I am also under the impression that there are no longer any carrier-specific builds.

each carrier puts in requests for specific things like network adjustments etc..so the base part of the updates are the same..its what the carriers request to be added on after that. which would be #7 in the link i provided above.

Gr1m5 wrote:

fireguy_6364 wrote:

one of my favorite go to run downs on how exactly updates are handled from start to finish..which again..EVERY manufacturer does it exactly the same way whether they admit it or not..

 

https://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/26/awesome-infographic-htc-shows-us-the-anatomy-of-an-android-os-update-from-pdk-to-ota/

 

Also that info graphic is from 2013 and from a device manufacturer that doesn't exist any longer. Much is still the same but a lot has changed as well. Not sure why you are so dead set on trying to excuse T-Mobile here. Any rational person can see that they have failed. The unlocked software that will be released OTA is identical to one pushed out to unlocked phones today for every other carrier worldwide. They have no excuse now. The build was finalized on December 22, 2021.

that might be from 2013...and also from a manufacturer that is no longer around..still doesnt change the fact that that is still how its handled..

so why come into here throwing a tantrum instead of flashing Google Fis build? if its that highly important to you then you would do it your way instead of waiting on the painfully slow TMO to do it for you.. or would you rather keep goose stomping around when it wont make TMO kick it out any faster?

you keep tossing out other countries yet forget to say that they get them about a month roughly before any US people do...been this way for ages..has yet to change..as is once one of the carriers kicks out a OS update its usually within a week or so the other carriers start kicking them out..again..not exactly new..

Gr1m5 wrote:

I could flash the Google fi build and it would be identical to the one I will get OTA when T-Mobile decides to give a damn.

I agree with everything @Gr1m5 wrote here except my understanding is that a future T-Mobile OTA would not install over a build that was sourced elsewhere. I am happy to be corrected if I’m wrong.

From the device support web page:

“Your device has non-T-Mobile software, and it is unsupported. The manufacturer and T-Mobile cannot update your software.”

I am confused though since I am also under the impression that there are no longer any carrier-specific builds.

fireguy_6364 wrote:

one of my favorite go to run downs on how exactly updates are handled from start to finish..which again..EVERY manufacturer does it exactly the same way whether they admit it or not..

 

https://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/26/awesome-infographic-htc-shows-us-the-anatomy-of-an-android-os-update-from-pdk-to-ota/

None of this excuses T-Mobile from being the last one to release an update out of the many carriers around the world. I could flash the Google fi build and it would be identical to the one I will get OTA when T-Mobile decides to give a damn. They aren't fixing bugs, they are not doing their jobs in a timely fashion which shoes their lack of respect for their customers.

Also that info graphic is from 2013 and from a device manufacturer that doesn't exist any longer. Much is still the same but a lot has changed as well. Not sure why you are so dead set on trying to excuse T-Mobile here. Any rational person can see that they have failed. The unlocked software that will be released OTA is identical to one pushed out to unlocked phones today for every other carrier worldwide. They have no excuse now. The build was finalized on December 22, 2021.

Past experience has been that T-Mobile lags behind Verizon and ATT by as much as several weeks. T-Mobile (if they actually say anything, which they usually don’t) will no doubt point fingers at Samsung, but as previously mentioned, the clock started ticking yesterday when Verizon pushed it out. Now we’re just waiting for T-Mobile.

fireguy_6364 wrote:

you forgot to include the part where each carrier must add in all their junk/and requirements that are NOT the same as the other carriers add ons..which shouldnt be much of a shocker that this would also be where many issues are brought in..

No, the unlocked software does not include any of that. It is the same across all US carriers. Even if that were true, it would still be quite disappointing from TMobile as it's been released on literally every other carrier across the world by now. From Serbia to Russia and every in between. 

you forgot to include the part where each carrier must add in all their junk/and requirements that are NOT the same as the other carriers add ons..which shouldnt be much of a shocker that this would also be where many issues are brought in..

fireguy_6364 wrote:

BDoub wrote:

Verizon has rolled out the release. I hope T-Mo can follow quickly. Sad to see Big Red quicker than Magenta.

not really..whoever clears the update the fastest with their tests for major bugs etc tends to be the first place winners..less issues the quicker the go ahead from that carrier for the OEM to kick it out..the more bugs they contain then you can probably put two and two together on whats going to happen with that update..

If this were true then the unlocked Fold 3s would have received their update already. They have on every other network worldwide and yet not on T-Mobile. The unlocked software doesn't differ between carriers so the one sent to T-Mobile for approval wouldn't have any bugs that the other carriers wouldn't have and yet it's been released for them.

BDoub wrote:

Verizon has rolled out the release. I hope T-Mo can follow quickly. Sad to see Big Red quicker than Magenta.

not really..whoever clears the update the fastest with their tests for major bugs etc tends to be the first place winners..less issues the quicker the go ahead from that carrier for the OEM to kick it out..the more bugs they contain then you can probably put two and two together on whats going to happen with that update..