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Time to leave Tmobile.
Is this true?
BREAKING:
has quietly updated their TOS to include fines for content they don’t agree with. Beginning on January 1, 2024, they will be fining users who commit perceived violations on their bandwidth. Who knew in America that the phone providers would now be policing the content of your text messages to fine you. S.H.A.F.T. is an acronym that stands for Sex, Hate, Alcohol, Firearms, and Tobacco. It outlines the categories of text messages specifically regulated due to moral and legal issues and is monitored and enforced by the Cellular Telephone Industries Association (CTIA) and the mobile carriers. Who gets to determine what is and isn’t “hateful”? Will political text messages be censored now as well going into 2024?
Hello all. These changes only apply to third-party messaging vendors that send commercial mass messaging campaigns for other businesses. The vendors will be fined if the content they are sending does not meet the standards in our code of conduct, which is in place to protect consumers from illegal or illicit content and aligns to federal and state laws.
- HeavenMCommunity Manager
Hello all. These changes only apply to third-party messaging vendors that send commercial mass messaging campaigns for other businesses. The vendors will be fined if the content they are sending does not meet the standards in our code of conduct, which is in place to protect consumers from illegal or illicit content and aligns to federal and state laws.
- fubarTransmission Trainee
o'L wrote:
We know that these tech giants spy on us and read our messages, which is a violation of the law. But to brazenly use it to make rule changes is bizarre to me. I hope this is not true; otherwise, sign me up for the class-action lawsuit coming to T-Mobile.
There will be no class action. You seem to be under the impression that there is some guarantee of privacy while using PRIVATE infrastructure. There is not.
You are granted a right to use the infrastructure by the operator in return for money. That’s it. End of discussion. The operator gives you NO RIGHTS and bears NO RESPONSIBILITIES for anything they do.
The T-Mobile network is T-Mobile’s sandbox. They get to make the rules.
There has been some talk of “Patriot Mobile” here… Read their TOS. It will say the same thing…no matter what junior wants you to believe.
PS. The First Amendment doesn’t apply to contractual relationships between PRIVATE parties.
PPS. Read the service agreement that you SIGNED when signing up for T-Mobile services. I can guarantee that you signed away your right to sue T-Mobile for anything in any forum or jurisdiction...agreeting to “arbitration” instead. The arbitration process is completely controlled by T-Mobile so it’s pretty much a foregone conclusion who would come out on top.
- TaterSalad2024Newbie Caller
NBTexas wrote:
As soon as I can I’m leaving all large carriers and going to try patriot mobile. I don’t know what else to do.
My guess is that users who would go to “Patriot Mobile” are the ones this was written for. In addition, this is to ensure their partners (MVNOs) that use their network (like Freedom Mobile, Patriot Mobile, etc.) also have the same standards of service.
- o_LNetwork Novice
We know that these tech giants spy on us and read our messages, which is a violation of the law. But to brazenly use it to make rule changes is bizarre to me. I hope this is not true; otherwise, sign me up for the class-action lawsuit coming to T-Mobile.
- fubarTransmission Trainee
If the source of this misinformation is Laura Loomer, you should seriously consider the quality of the information in the first place.
Laura Loomer is despicable excuse for a human being who engages in vile hate of people based on their skin color, national origin and faith practices.
- gramps28Router Royalty
MimiNW wrote:
gramps28 wrote:
It's ironic that this was posted twice within minutes of each other from different posters.
Has anyone else noticed the typo in the link above? "Pilicy"? T-Mobile wouldn't post that link with a mispelling. I don't trust it. And a policy change like that needs to be shared with all customers. If they don't, it's illegal to fine
If you click on the link, it's not a post by a Tmobile employee but a different thread by a different poster with poor grammar with a Tmobile employee response pinned.
- MimiNWNewbie Caller
gramps28 wrote:
It's ironic that this was posted twice within minutes of each other from different posters.
Has anyone else noticed the typo in the link above? "Pilicy"? T-Mobile wouldn't post that link with a mispelling. I don't trust it. And a policy change like that needs to be shared with all customers. If they don't, it's illegal to fine
- cincinnatimanNetwork Novice
lets do go throw some fack it not possable t-moble read tex messages they encripted end to end it cant be broken ,
two i was on phone t- moble law department said in short this is a lie, these policy came up with paypal in short they lost there bank for doing this, t-moble can recored our phone calls its called wire taping no user agreement can get around this, reading websights there not place has not been doing it, throw,
to inforce this will cause them lose 50% of all clients they not willing risk this,
now i am in server securty i can tell u one texe messages can not be read off a iphone, they encripted, two taping phone calls is crimal offece not civel one i dont think ceo want go jail, as to last unless some one can show me something on t-moble sight proves this this should end here, this no more miss infromation however, i have help apple to inshure t-moble or no one else can read files on phone, but be aware some apps install may alow them do so , this saying may do so there no proof t-moble apps doing this,, i state one last thing this taken down paypal bank what u think will do to t-moble as we all leave , they not risk it, also do note one fack throw never done in usa stock holders canbe held lieable for actions of the busness in short u sue stockholders, this never been done but law states if they part of by busness who makeing a proffit that they to can be sue for damages , so unless some one can provide proof lets do end it here, we all want proof not 3ed party crap , to say t-moble can read our sms text message is down right lie, this gone to far must end show us where on t-moble states this or end it
- gramps28Router Royalty
Here's another article explaining the new implementation.
https://blog.j2i.net/2023/12/26/no-t-mobile-is-not-fining-customers-for-disliked-sms/
- Kittykins73Network Novice
CousinMint, Android to Android RCS works. Android to iOS it doesn't.
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