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Re: When will T-Mobile convert their RCS platform to the Jibe Platform (Google) for RCS?
tidbits wrote: Actually US forums... If you go to other forums including Google own forums There are examples outside of just T-Mobile. You have a case of confirmation bias due to the limited date given to you. Fun fact it's an interloping issue which T-Mobile and Google are in charge of. People blame T-Mobile for it. How do we know this is an issue? T-Mobile to T-Mobile no issues using RCS to each other Perceived using Samsung Messages. Jibe to Jibe no issues. (Perceived though, Google own forums alone shows it's not all roses). To and from each other there are issues. There are issues with any RCS withing Samsung Devices. Some people notice this from time to time with Pixel devices. There are a lot of testing done in various places not just T-Mobile on other carrier forums. It's one of the reasons carriers are dropping their own servers for Jibe because they all have interloping issues and they got blamed for it alone. For all we know carriers interloping are good, but Google is what is actually causing the issues. When I am in front of a computer and I will track that rabbit hole and share links. You will need a translator because they will be in Korean, Mandarin, and French. My phone is US, and YES, the confirmations I am talking about is for Locked USA T-Mobile Samsung phones using Google Messages that are still using T-Mobile RCS.53Views0likes0CommentsRe: When will T-Mobile convert their RCS platform to the Jibe Platform (Google) for RCS?
tidbits wrote: In the thread if I can find it again it's mostly Samsung devices. It didn't matter the server used. All were using Google messages. Didn't matter where in the world you are. Google made their forums so bad it's hard to keep track let alone find useful information. Google, and Samsung have not responded to inquiries about it for weeks. Yes, Samsung devices. That article you linked is worthless. It has no real information. It does not mention anything about that RCS server is in use. Yet there are a ton of forums and communities, including this one, where there is a lot of confirmation of issues with Google Messages having RCS issues on Samsung devices when the RCS server is T-Mobile instead of Jibe.53Views0likes0CommentsRe: When will T-Mobile convert their RCS platform to the Jibe Platform (Google) for RCS?
tidbits wrote: It's the world my guy not just us we are talking about. Google Messages forum if you can find the threads. The old design makes problems easily identifiable. Doesn't matter what server you connect to people who use Samsung devices in the past few months have seen drops to their RCS. It's more noticeable if they are in group chats. S24 uses Jibe and I have been dropped quite a few times randomly from my family chat. Thought it was a Google messages bug and reported with logs on Google forums and went down the rabbit hole. The the article was written you see because of a select few in those threads told them about it. It is poorly written I do admit. For example: And you are sure that everyone in your group RCS chat is using Jibe RCS? Or at least everyone using T-mobile in your group RCS chat is using Jibe and not T-mobile RCS? I don’t have any issues on my other Samsung phones when using Jibe RCS for Google Messages as long as everyone in the chat is not using T-mobile RCS.32Views0likes0CommentsRe: When will T-Mobile convert their RCS platform to the Jibe Platform (Google) for RCS?
tidbits wrote: xenon2000 wrote: tidbits wrote: Might not even be a T-Mobile or Google issue. Happens to Samsung messaging app, Googles, Messaging app. It doesn't matter of location or which servers. https://www.sammobile.com/news/rcs-messages-not-working-properly-for-some-galaxy-phone-users/ No technology works 100% of the time, sure. But there is a real issue affecting a ton of T-mobile Samsung phones for the unstable T-mobile RCS with Google Messages that doesn’t affect Samsung Messages. It doesn’t take much research to see how widespread this issue is. It’s disappointing that it’s been months since Fall 2023 that T-mobile said they were switching and yet so many phones are still using the T-mobile RCS on the 2024.03.08 version of Google Messages. Google could do the switch right now if they wanted to. There is no agreement for carriers to use Googles app for x years. It's literally a flag only Google can change. All messages apps are affected for some reason. This includes Google Messages. There are regions that only use Jibe and they have this problem listed below. "Others also contributed their observations that the people whose chats they find constantly switching between RCS and conventional SMS have Samsung devices. It's unclear what may be causing this, as there's little guidance on the matter from Google or Samsung." There is a widespread issue with the Google Messages app using the T-mobile RCS on many Samsung devices. People with Google Messages using Jibe instead of T-Mobile RCS report no issues on their Samsung device. T-Mobile said months ago they are switching to Jibe for Google Messages app, but so far many people report that still hasn’t happened. My Locked T-mobile S22 with the March firmware and March Google Messages is still using T-Mobile RCS. So this thread is trying to ask T-mobile why the switch hasn’t happened yet.14Views0likes0CommentsRe: When will T-Mobile convert their RCS platform to the Jibe Platform (Google) for RCS?
Here is some good insight on how to figure out if you are using a problematic version of Google Messages. Quote below taken from the link below. “ You could have other messaging issues on Samsung Messages too, but we are talking about Samsung switching over their default messaging app to Google Messages (samsung_dynamic) version of that app. Here is some more info that may help some people at least understand the figure out what combination of phone ROM and Messaging app is affected. Basically, around the start of the S22, Samsung decided they wanted to stop using their Samsung Messages app and start using Google Messages for the stock messaging app on Samsung phones. On the T-Mobile official Samsung phone ROM, they've taken the Google Messages app, and coded it to use the less stable RCS Services from T-Mobile instead of the more stable Googles RCS Services. There are a few different combinations of phone ROMs and Messaging apps at play that will give different experiences here: Unlocked Samsung ROM on T-Mobile using unaltered Google Messages (uses the stable Google RCS provided by Jibe) Unlocked Samsung ROM on T-Mobile using Samsung Messages (uses the stable Google RCS provided by Jibe) Locked T-Mobile ROM on T-Mobile using the samsung_dynamic version of Google Messages (uses unstable Google RCS provided by T-Mobile) Locked T-Mobile ROM on T-Mobile using Samsung Messages (uses the stable Google RCS provided by Jibe) Samsung/T-Mobile have coded the Google Messages (samsung_dynamic) version of the app to using T-Mobiles RCS Services. The others still use Googles RCS Services (Jibe). If you want to see what RCS services you are connecting to: Open Google Messages, profile, message settings, RCS chats, scroll to the bottom. If it says RCS provided by T-Mobile, that's the problem RCS services. If it says RCS from Google provided by Jibe, this is the stable one. If you want to see what version of the Google Messages you are using (if you aren't running Samsung Messages): Open Google Messages, profile, message settings, About terms and privacy. If you have the version of Google Messages that's been alerted by T-Mobile/Samsung to use RCS services from T-Mobile, you should see the "samsung_dynamic" in the version info. ” https://www.reddit.com/r/UniversalProfile/comments/158n51f/raising_awareness_for_tmobiles_samsung_rcs/15Views0likes0CommentsRe: When will T-Mobile convert their RCS platform to the Jibe Platform (Google) for RCS?
tidbits wrote: Might not even be a T-Mobile or Google issue. Happens to Samsung messaging app, Googles, Messaging app. It doesn't matter of location or which servers. https://www.sammobile.com/news/rcs-messages-not-working-properly-for-some-galaxy-phone-users/ No technology works 100% of the time, sure. But there is a real issue affecting a ton of T-mobile Samsung phones for the unstable T-mobile RCS with Google Messages that doesn’t affect Samsung Messages. It doesn’t take much research to see how widespread this issue is. It’s disappointing that it’s been months since Fall 2023 that T-mobile said they were switching and yet so many phones are still using the T-mobile RCS on the 2024.03.08 version of Google Messages.23Views0likes0CommentsRe: When will T-Mobile convert their RCS platform to the Jibe Platform (Google) for RCS?
I have a locked T-mobile S22 base and even with the latest Google Messages apps (2024.03.08) “messages.android_20240308_01_RC03.phone_samsung_dynamic” , I still have RCS issues where I will either not received RCS messages or it will not send RCS messages. Yet if I switch to Samsung Messages, RCS works perfectly and instantly. I am tired of not having a working Google Messages app as I really do not like the organization and display of the Samsung Messages app. Yet it’s been years and it’s still not fixed. I was really hoping that the information from T-mobile months ago meant that the new firmware or app updates would solve this and I would be using the Jibe servers for RCS on Google Messages. Still hasn’t happened.16Views0likes0Comments